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US 'no-fly' list of suspected terrorists doubles in 12 months

Seeded on Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:13 AM EST
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The size of the US government's secret list of suspected terrorists who are banned from flying to or within the country has more than doubled in the past year.

The no-fly list jumped from about 10,000 known or suspected terrorists one year ago to about 21,000, according to government figures. About 500 are US nationals.

The flood of new names began after the failed Christmas 2009 bombing of a Detroit-bound jetliner when the US government lowered the standard for putting people on the list and scoured its files for anyone who qualified. "We learned a lot about the watchlisting process and made strong improvements, which continue to this day," said Timothy Healy, director of the Terrorist Screening Centre, which produces the no-fly list.

Among the most significant new standard is that a person doesn't have to be considered only a threat to aviation to be placed on the list.

People considered a broader threat to domestic or international security or who attended a terror training camp are also included, said a US counter-terrorism official who spoke on condition of anonymity. As agencies complete the reviews of their files, the pace of growth is expected to slow, the counter-terrorism official said.

The American Civil Liberties Union has previously sued the US government on behalf of Americans who believe they are on the no-fly list and have not been able to travel by air for work or to see family.

"The news that the list is growing tells us that more people's rights are being violated," said Nusrat Choudhury, of the ACLU. "It's a secret list, and the government puts people on it without any explanation. Citizens have been stranded abroad."

People who complain they're unfairly on the list can submit a letter to the homeland security department, but the only way they'll know if they're still on the list is to try to fly again, she said.

While the list is secret, it is subject to continuous review to ensure the right people are on it and that those who shouldn't be are removed, said Martin Reardon, a former chief of the FBI's terrorist screening operations centre.

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Marshall James

and each year more and more will be added...total compliance or else!!!

scary, scary.

COH please

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:25 AM EST
Lee-479062

The no-fly list jumped from about 10,000 known or suspected terrorists one year ago to about 21,000, according to government figures. About 500 are US nationals.

With only 500 US citizens on the list, it is not as bad as it could be. Still, it does not convey "liberty" very well.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:57 AM EST
Marshall James

I think our prison system shows we do not believe in liberty anymore.

peace.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:59 AM EST
Lee-479062

The concept definitely needs to be more widely spread. I believe we started going wrong when some people became afraid of the personal responsibility aspect that accompanies it.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:23 PM EST
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Neale Osborn

What a crock of @!$%#. more nazi @!$%# every day in this country.

"Mr Osborn, you can't get on this airplane. You're on the no-fly list!"

"Huh?!?! WHY?"

"It appears that you collect guns and vote Libertarian. janet Reno declared that grounds for declaring you a terrorist. Also, you're an NRA Member. Be glad we don't just send you to GITMO. Oh, wait. Here comes an MP. See you in 2 years!!"

It's the end of the world as we knew it!!

"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." The Borg mantra.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:27 AM EST
Marshall James

neale...just comply without question....only real criminals have anything to worry about.

just dont have a weeks worth of food in your house...and for gods sakes...keep all your fingers!!!!!!

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 11:38 AM EST
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