Ron Paul Supports Legalizing Hemp Cultivation and Free Market at North Dakota Campaign Event - International Business Times

It's not a zero-sum game. A lot of Dr. No's support comes from people who wouldn't vote for anybody else. And the calculus of his libertarian message somewhat changes the rules of how people vote on their usual "litmus" issues.

F'rinstance, some strongly anti-war "progressives" support him because he's the only anti-violence candidate in the race from any party, even though they might hate his economic views.

I've run for office as a Libertarian many times, and I've always had pretty equal support from both crony parties, despite what Republicans say about Libertarians "stealing votes" from mostly Republicans.

I don't know what state you're in, but most state GOPs have at least tried to institute "Ron Paul Rules" to exclude his delegates. You probably know that getting delegates is a big part of his clever plan to at least affect the GOP platforms, if not become the nominee.

Are you a delegate? Have you tried to become one?

I can't play in GOP games for all sorts of reasons (I think the self-named, so-called "Two Party System" is a crony network that must be destroyed). But if I were to bend my principles even a little, I'd try to be a delegate for him.

sorry Marshall.............

RCP Average2/6 - 2/15 Obama (D) 48.6% Paul (R) 40.4%

Rasmussen Reports 2/14 - 2/15Obama (D)44%Paul (R) 39%

CNN/Opinion Research2/10 - 2/13Obama (D)52%Paul (R) 45%

CBS News/NY Times2/8 - 2/13Obama (D)50%Paul (R)39%

PPP (D)2/9 - 2/12Obama (D)49%Paul (R)41%

FOX News2/6 - 2/9 Obama (D)48% Paul (R)38%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_obama-1750.html

your living in fantasy land Marshall.

it isn't media telling us Marshall.

it is people. people being polled.

Paul hasn't a chance.

heck ... I'll go with British betting ...... which has been more spot on than polls !

It has Obama in first place with 1/2 followed by Romney 11/4 , Insantorum 10/1, Gingrich 40/1 and then Paul. Paul in fourth place and odds of 50 to 1. a long shot !

http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/politics/us-presidential-election/2012-us-presidential-race-e212304268

yes ... Hemp ...

while I have no problem with it being a crop as long as like tobacco it is taxed heavily ..............

Libertarianism: It's all about "Me," not "We."

( although Paul is now wearing the Republican mask since he has no shot claiming to be a Libertarian )

If it was up to libertarians, none of the United State's great achievements in social and economic justice would have happened. There would be no civil rights laws, no environmental laws, no labor rights and wage laws. Restaurants could turn away black people, firms could refuse to hire women, factories could dump their toxic waste in rivers, your boss could make you work seven days a week, 10 hours a day, for $1/hour, dogfights would be legal, and so on. Their remedies would be along the lines of, "Black people and their supporters can eat elsewhere." "Women could start their own businesses," "Local communities could sue the polluters," "If you don't like slave labor, just quit," and "If two men own dogs and want to fight them, their property rights must be respected."

The libertarians I've met in person, and the public ones such as Matt Stone & Trey Parker, or Ron & Rand Paul, are generally affluent white men. Their philosophy is, "I got mine, Jack, too bad about you." Ultimately, their guiding principle is selfishness.

Lastly, there is much truth to the old saying that libertarians are just Republicans who like to get high and use prostitutes.

while I have no problem with it being a crop as long as like tobacco it is taxed heavily

Why? What's the comparison? Is industrial hemp a vice that bears a cost to society? Are you also arguing for the heavy taxation of cotton? Why not? How about Jute? Your proposal is just a knee-jerk reaction based on the similarity to marijuana... and perpetuating those similarities is the foundation of the war on Hemp.

Marshall James

ripley

your cut and paste job...no matter how many times you do it....doesnt make it ever so.

actually ? it does !

if we had libertarianism in place we also would of never had slavery or jim crow laws, women would of always had the right to vote, we wouldnt have the fascist nation we have right now.

bull@!$%# ! now your just lying or in denial ! Racist Paul himself states it was a mistake to pass the Civil Rights Act ............

Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Voted For The 1964 Civil Rights Act (VIDEO)
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/ron-paul-i-would-not-have-voted-for-the-1964-civil-rights-act-video.php

Paul favored slave owner bailout over civil war
http://smd12364.newsvine.com/_news/2011/12/23/9653787-ghost-of-christmas-past-ron-paul-favored-federal-slaveowner-bailout-over-civil-war

KKK site links to Paul
http://smd12364.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/01/10291197-anonymous-hacks-white-supremacist-site-finds-direct-links-to-ron-paul

A letter on congressional letterhead, dated August 30, 1979, from Paul thanked a Mr. Amos W. Bruce for "the copy of the article in The American Mercury and the copies of your essays. I found them all very interesting." The American Mercury was an anti-Semitic magazine owned by Willis Carto, one of America's most notorious holocaust deniers and the founder of The Liberty Lobby. The issue of The American Mercury Paul praised included essays entitled, "You Can't Escape the Kosher Food Tax," "Are You Ready for the White Man's Doomsday," and "Racism - Black African Style."

10 reasons NOT to vote for Ron Paul!

1. Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities.
2. Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights
3. Ron Paul would be disastrous for the working class.
4. Ron Paul's tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes
5. Ron Paul's policies would cause irreparable damage to our already strained environment.
6. A Ron Paul administration would continue to proliferate the negative image of the US among other nations.
7. Ron Paul discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation
and would not provide equal rights and protections to glbt citizens.
8. Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns.
9. Ron Paul would butcher our already sad educational system.
10. Ron Paul is opposed to the separation of church and state.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-ron-paul/question-2392051/

The Myth That More Military Donate To Ron Paul Than Any Other Candidate
http://ronpaulexposed.wordpress.com/

many more on the bigoted Paul.

bondibox

while I have no problem with it being a crop as long as like tobacco it is taxed heavily

Why? What's the comparison? Is industrial hemp a vice that bears a cost to society? Are you also arguing for the heavy taxation of cotton? Why not? How about Jute? Your proposal is just a knee-jerk reaction based on the similarity to marijuana... and perpetuating those similarities is the foundation of the war on Hemp.

spoken like a smoker.

My brother was an avid pot smoker. He did not smoke tobacco. He passed away at age 36 back in 2005 due to cancer that spread to his lungs and elsewhere eventually.

Pin Point radiation may very well have saved his life . however they could not do it due to the damage pot did to his lungs. The only reason !

Pot is not the harmless drug pot smokers want people to believe. It slows reaction time yet many drive while being high. It costs extra medically.

It is a drug. and as such should be treated so. Want to smoke it ? Like harmful tobacco ... tax the crap out of . No one will deny you the right to smoke it. You'll just have to pay for it.

Health_Concerns: WHAT ARE THE MEDICAL DANGERS OF MARIJUANA USE?
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html

InfoFacts: Marijuana

What Other Adverse Effect Does Marijuana Have on Health?
Effects on the Heart

Marijuana increases heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug.5 This may be due to increased heart rate as well as the effects of marijuana on heart rhythms, causing palpitations and arrhythmias. This risk may be greater in aging populations or in those with cardiac vulnerabilities.
Effects on the Lungs

Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which further increase the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. Marijuana smokers show dysregulated growth of epithelial cells in their lung tissue, which could lead to cancer;6 however, a recent case-controlled study found no positive associations between marijuana use and lung, upper respiratory, or upper digestive tract cancers.7 Thus, the link between marijuana smoking and these cancers remains unsubstantiated at this time.

Nonetheless, marijuana smokers can have many of the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, and a heightened risk of lung infections. A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers.8 Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.
Effects on Daily Life

Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. In one study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement, including physical and mental health, cognitive abilities, social life, and career status.9 Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/infofacts/marijuana

Why? What's the comparison? Is industrial hemp a vice that bears a cost to society? Are you also arguing for the heavy taxation of cotton? Why not? How about Jute? Your proposal is just a knee-jerk reaction based on the similarity to marijuana... and perpetuating those similarities is the foundation of the war on Hemp.

you too are either lying or ignorant on the subject.

Marshall James

of course it was wrong to pass the CRA as it is racist.

yes I'm sure you'd be happy with separate drinking fountains , schools and blacks sitting at the back of the bus.

bet you hate the fact that blacks and women got the vote too !

all of the atrocities known to man would never of happened.

man ! what kind of dope are you smoking ? obviously some brain cells have suffered as a result !

Marshall, I think you're wasting your time.

Some people don't get it at all. They think that "going back" to constitutional rule of law means we'd have to give up flushing toilets and iPhones. They don't see that we've instead "gone back" to before Hammurabi, and are once again dependent upon the benevolence of the ruling/wealthy class for everything we have.

OK Ripley8, marijuana is evil, blah blah blah. I get it.

What does that have to do with industrial hemp?

Just calling me "ignorant" doesn't make your reality fact-based.

"Saturated fats are bad, so we should tax hemp like tobacco."

^^ This makes as much sense as Ripley's anti-marijuana copy and paste job. ^^

I understand your point and can't argue it too much. I'm pretty annoyed that some Libertarians catch heck when they run as Republicans (me, f'rinstance), while Libs go all goo-goo-eyed when a celebrity/already-elected pol does it.

We've got our idolatries too.

But there never has been any such "thing" as the "two party system." That crony network tells us stuff; and not only do we tend to believe it, but we make choices and sacrifices based upon their lies.

That's our choice. That's not a system; it's collective tribal madness that will quite likely kill our culture.

Well, actually, he always has been doing the same stuff. It's just that he's been one voice in 435 (well, maybe 545, when you count the SCOTUS and POTUS) for a very, very long time.

Just like the USA.

Sigh...